Discussion:
How to make D2O at home?
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Dan Oddluck
2005-09-28 02:57:06 UTC
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Is there a cheap way to make D2O at home , using normal water? Time is no
problem, but I cannot buy D2O , it's pretty expensive; and I don't need 100%
D2O, just 70%-80% should be enough.
g***@gmail.com
2005-09-28 04:13:23 UTC
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Post by Dan Oddluck
Is there a cheap way to make D2O at home , using normal water? Time is no
problem, but I cannot buy D2O , it's pretty expensive; and I don't need 100%
D2O, just 70%-80% should be enough.
Yes. Burn some deuterium gas in the presence of oxygen.
d***@hotmail.com
2005-09-28 04:35:11 UTC
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How can I make a fission bomb?

First, procure 20 lbs of plutonium....
AJ
2005-09-29 19:12:58 UTC
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Post by d***@hotmail.com
How can I make a fission bomb?
You replied to a post telling the OPer to make water by burning
Deuterium gas in Oxygen. If you were making a *fusion* bomb, you would
want the gas. You need to get the Deuterium *out* of the water to make a
bomb :-)

AJ.
d***@gmail.com
2015-10-08 13:34:42 UTC
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Post by d***@hotmail.com
How can I make a fission bomb?
First, procure 20 lbs of plutonium....
it is near enough impossible to have plutonium to make a fission bomb because plutonium is Government prioritized, also its probably really expensive to get
dlzc
2015-10-08 14:00:58 UTC
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Post by d***@gmail.com
Post by d***@hotmail.com
How can I make a fission bomb?
First, procure 20 lbs of plutonium....
it is near enough impossible to have plutonium
to make a fission bomb because plutonium is
Government prioritized, also its probably really
expensive to get
This is a 10 year old thread. I doubt any of the respondents are still watching it.

David A. Smith
Lynn McGuire
2015-10-08 17:06:00 UTC
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Post by dlzc
Post by d***@gmail.com
Post by d***@hotmail.com
How can I make a fission bomb?
First, procure 20 lbs of plutonium....
it is near enough impossible to have plutonium
to make a fission bomb because plutonium is
Government prioritized, also its probably really
expensive to get
This is a 10 year old thread. I doubt any of the respondents are still watching it.
David A. Smith
Except for the NSA.

Lynn
Norm X
2016-02-29 21:44:43 UTC
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Post by dlzc
Post by dlzc
This is a 10 year old thread. I doubt any of the respondents are still watching it.
David A. Smith
Except for the NSA.
Lynn
There is no need to make D2O at home. It is more expeditious to buy it,
since all stable isotopes are legal and Big Business. For those too lazy to
Google, here is a short list of suppliers:

Spectra Stable Isotopes
Isogeochem
Cambridge Isotope Laboratories
ISOTEC
C/D/N ISOTOPES INC.
STB ISOTOPE
ISOFLEX
DMOZ
AMT
Trace Sciences International
CortecNet



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Me
2005-09-28 04:29:52 UTC
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Post by Dan Oddluck
Is there a cheap way to make D2O at home , using normal water? Time is no
problem, but I cannot buy D2O , it's pretty expensive; and I don't need 100%
D2O, just 70%-80% should be enough.
Ok, say you did manage to make this D2O at home. What will you be asking
for next.....how to enrich Uranium?
Sbharris[atsign]ix.netcom.com
2005-09-28 04:59:12 UTC
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Post by Dan Oddluck
Is there a cheap way to make D2O at home , using normal water? Time is no
problem, but I cannot buy D2O , it's pretty expensive; and I don't need 100%
D2O, just 70%-80% should be enough.
It's not expensive. A dollar a gram in small amounts, half that in kg
amounts.

It would be hard to make yourself. You'd have to electrolyze so much
water that your power bill would add up to more than you'd buy it for.
And you'd have a lot of gunk at the end which would be hard to remove.

What do you want it for?

SBH
Autymn D. C.
2005-10-16 08:10:50 UTC
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Post by Sbharris[atsign]ix.netcom.com
Post by Dan Oddluck
Is there a cheap way to make D2O at home , using normal water? Time is no
problem, but I cannot buy D2O , it's pretty expensive; and I don't need 100%
D2O, just 70%-80% should be enough.
It's not expensive. A dollar a gram in small amounts, half that in kg
amounts.
It would be hard to make yourself. You'd have to electrolyze so much
water that your power bill would add up to more than you'd buy it for.
And you'd have a lot of gunk at the end which would be hard to remove.
What do you want it for?
And what's wrong with centrifuging them? You could push the two
molecules apart with your pinky.

-Aut
Rene Tschaggelar
2005-09-28 09:46:43 UTC
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Post by Dan Oddluck
Is there a cheap way to make D2O at home , using normal water? Time is no
problem, but I cannot buy D2O , it's pretty expensive; and I don't need 100%
D2O, just 70%-80% should be enough.
Trying cold fusion ?
It appears to become a sport, retry what scientists
with big budgets fail on.

Rene
Me
2005-09-29 05:24:11 UTC
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Post by Rene Tschaggelar
Post by Dan Oddluck
Is there a cheap way to make D2O at home , using normal water? Time is no
problem, but I cannot buy D2O , it's pretty expensive; and I don't need 100%
D2O, just 70%-80% should be enough.
Trying cold fusion ?
Fusion uses Tritium, not Deuterium.
Y.Porat
2005-09-29 07:11:20 UTC
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wrong it uses both!!

ATB
Y.Porat
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Gregory L. Hansen
2005-09-28 18:51:53 UTC
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Post by Dan Oddluck
Is there a cheap way to make D2O at home , using normal water? Time is no
problem, but I cannot buy D2O , it's pretty expensive; and I don't need 100%
D2O, just 70%-80% should be enough.
D2O occurs naturally in regular water.

Separating it is another matter. But that's got to be easier than
separating U235 from U238. H2O is lighter, so it will diffuse through
filters and membranes faster. Reducing that to practice is an exercise
for the reader. There's a reason D2O is expensive.
--
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Uncle Al
2005-09-28 21:39:40 UTC
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Post by Dan Oddluck
Is there a cheap way to make D2O at home , using normal water? Time is no
problem, but I cannot buy D2O , it's pretty expensive; and I don't need 100%
D2O, just 70%-80% should be enough.
Aldrich
Deuterium oxide, 99 atom-%
25 g/$(US)23.40
100 g/$(US)67.00

Deuterium oxide, 99.9 atom-%
25 g/$(US)25.10
100 g/$(US)68.60

Have your druggist buy it for you. Note that D2O is extremely
hygroscopic.
--
Uncle Al
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Me
2005-09-29 05:21:12 UTC
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Post by Uncle Al
Post by Dan Oddluck
Is there a cheap way to make D2O at home , using normal water? Time is no
problem, but I cannot buy D2O , it's pretty expensive; and I don't need 100%
D2O, just 70%-80% should be enough.
Aldrich
Deuterium oxide, 99 atom-%
25 g/$(US)23.40
100 g/$(US)67.00
Deuterium oxide, 99.9 atom-%
25 g/$(US)25.10
100 g/$(US)68.60
Have your druggist buy it for you. Note that D2O is extremely
hygroscopic.
Stay out of this newsgroup Al. Your not an chemical engineer by any
means............actually, you are a chemical nothing!
Uncle Al
2005-09-29 18:47:33 UTC
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Post by Me
Post by Uncle Al
Post by Dan Oddluck
Is there a cheap way to make D2O at home , using normal water? Time is no
problem, but I cannot buy D2O , it's pretty expensive; and I don't need 100%
D2O, just 70%-80% should be enough.
Aldrich
Deuterium oxide, 99 atom-%
25 g/$(US)23.40
100 g/$(US)67.00
Deuterium oxide, 99.9 atom-%
25 g/$(US)25.10
100 g/$(US)68.60
Have your druggist buy it for you. Note that D2O is extremely
hygroscopic.
Stay out of this newsgroup Al. Your not an chemical engineer by any
means............actually, you are a chemical nothing!
Go make it yourself for less. Organikers are not chemical engineers.
ChemE's are told what to make, organikers do the telling. FOaD.
--
Uncle Al
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
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http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/qz.pdf
Me
2005-09-29 20:31:53 UTC
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Post by Uncle Al
Go make it yourself for less. Organikers are not chemical engineers.
ChemE's are told what to make, organikers do the telling. FOaD.
Listen here dirtbag. You don't tell anybody anybody shit what to do. But,
I am going to tell you what to do.......STFU!
NunYa Bidness
2005-09-29 21:55:54 UTC
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Post by Me
Post by Uncle Al
Go make it yourself for less. Organikers are not chemical engineers.
ChemE's are told what to make, organikers do the telling. FOaD.
Listen here dirtbag. You don't tell anybody anybody shit what to do. But,
I am going to tell you what to do.......STFU!
You're a retard.
Uncle Al
2005-09-30 00:05:40 UTC
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Post by Me
Post by Uncle Al
Go make it yourself for less. Organikers are not chemical engineers.
ChemE's are told what to make, organikers do the telling. FOaD.
Listen here dirtbag. You don't tell anybody anybody shit what to do. But,
I am going to tell you what to do.......STFU!
Then you won't get any D2O. Physical reality is Uncle Al's ally, and
a powerful ally it is. Pookie pookie, sweatheart. Eat shit and die.

Aldrich
Deuterium oxide, 99 atom-%
25 g/$(US)23.40
100 g/$(US)67.00

Deuterium oxide, 99.9 atom-%
25 g/$(US)25.10
100 g/$(US)68.60

Are ya gonna get it from Alfa or Acros? Aldrich bought the ISOTEC
isotope separation plant. You could burn deuterium gas. Aldrich
sells it. You could run commercial H2 through ten thousand stages of
hot Pd/Ag membranes. You could go to Canada and suck off the Bruce
heavy water plant in Ontario. Follow the smell of rotten eggs. The
production of a single pound of heavy water requires 340,000 pounds of
feed water. Same ratio in kilograms.

Maybe you can collect some drips from the Qinshan III-Stage heavy
water nuclear reactor in Zhejiang Province, PR China.
--
Uncle Al
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
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Gregory L. Hansen
2005-09-30 02:38:32 UTC
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Post by Uncle Al
Post by Me
Post by Uncle Al
Go make it yourself for less. Organikers are not chemical engineers.
ChemE's are told what to make, organikers do the telling. FOaD.
Listen here dirtbag. You don't tell anybody anybody shit what to do. But,
I am going to tell you what to do.......STFU!
Then you won't get any D2O. Physical reality is Uncle Al's ally, and
a powerful ally it is. Pookie pookie, sweatheart. Eat shit and die.
Aldrich
Deuterium oxide, 99 atom-%
25 g/$(US)23.40
100 g/$(US)67.00
Deuterium oxide, 99.9 atom-%
25 g/$(US)25.10
100 g/$(US)68.60
Are ya gonna get it from Alfa or Acros? Aldrich bought the ISOTEC
isotope separation plant. You could burn deuterium gas. Aldrich
sells it. You could run commercial H2 through ten thousand stages of
hot Pd/Ag membranes. You could go to Canada and suck off the Bruce
heavy water plant in Ontario. Follow the smell of rotten eggs. The
production of a single pound of heavy water requires 340,000 pounds of
feed water. Same ratio in kilograms.
Maybe you can collect some drips from the Qinshan III-Stage heavy
water nuclear reactor in Zhejiang Province, PR China.
Boil off half a flask of water-- since D2O is heavier than H2O the
remainder will be slightly enriched.

I suspect that's not as efficient as ten thousand stages of hot Pd/Ag
membranes. How much would you have to boil to get a 50% concentration?
--
"Suppose you were an idiot... And suppose you were a member of
Congress... But I repeat myself." - Mark Twain
hanson
2005-09-30 02:45:07 UTC
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Listen here dirtbag. You don't tell anybody any shit what to do.
[Al]
Then you won't get any D2O. Eat shit and die.
Maybe you can collect some drips from the Qinshan III-Stage
heavy water nuclear reactor in Zhejiang Province, PR China.
[hanson]
ahahaha.... AHAHAHA... ahahaha... this is too much... ahahaha...
Al, the Eotvoes thing is now clearly getting to you when you are
taking your frustration out on the Chinese reactor folks, because
a few learned Chinese physicists didn't dance to your tune when
you thought that you were their "Fiddler on the roof".... ahahaha...
But keep the show going... you are at your very best... entertaining
everybody at these here crazy 24/7 cyber parties .... ahahaha..
Thanks for the laughs... ahahaha... ahahahanson
Androcles
2005-09-29 22:12:15 UTC
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"Uncle Al" <***@hate.spam.net> wrote in message news:***@hate.spam.net...

So the Chinese told you to fuck off. Who can blame them?

Psychotic ineducable boring spammer (Alan Schwartz),
Why are you having so much trouble with basic algebra?
Let L_1 = distance light travels in going from Sam to Joe, as
measured in the stationary frame.
1) L_1 = cL/(c-v)
What a right royal stooopid motherfucker.
See the peeing puppy moortel, he'll not be glad to add
you to his list of truly IMMORTAL fumbles. I will, though.

[quote]
we establish by definition that the "time" required by a turtle to
travel
from A to B equals the "time" it requires to travel from B to A.
[end quote]
Ref: http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/specrel/www/

[quote]
For velocities greater than that of a turtle our deliberations become
meaningless; we shall, however, find in what follows, that the velocity
of a turtle in our theory plays the part, physically, of an infinitely
great velocity.
[quote]
Ref: http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/specrel/www/

Nothing can go faster than a turtle.

Oops!... Did I say 'a turtle'? Sorry...'light'.

Androcles
o***@yahoo.com
2005-10-07 17:42:51 UTC
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Post by Uncle Al
Post by Me
Post by Uncle Al
Post by Dan Oddluck
Is there a cheap way to make D2O at home , using normal water? Time is no
problem, but I cannot buy D2O , it's pretty expensive; and I don't need 100%
D2O, just 70%-80% should be enough.
Aldrich
Deuterium oxide, 99 atom-%
25 g/$(US)23.40
100 g/$(US)67.00
Deuterium oxide, 99.9 atom-%
25 g/$(US)25.10
100 g/$(US)68.60
Have your druggist buy it for you. Note that D2O is extremely
hygroscopic.
Stay out of this newsgroup Al. Your not an chemical engineer by any
means............actually, you are a chemical nothing!
Go make it yourself for less. Organikers are not chemical engineers.
ChemE's are told what to make, organikers do the telling. FOaD.
Actually, it's management who does the telling, for better or worse.
And management ultimately reports to the shareholders.

Oh, the madness!
Post by Uncle Al
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Ken Muldrew
2005-09-29 15:23:04 UTC
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Post by Dan Oddluck
Is there a cheap way to make D2O at home , using normal water? Time is no
problem, but I cannot buy D2O , it's pretty expensive; and I don't need 100%
D2O, just 70%-80% should be enough.
I recall it being in the range of a dollar per gram. If you can't
afford that then you won't be able to afford to enrich it yourself.
Find an nmr lab and go through their garbage.

Ken Muldrew
***@ucalgazry.ca
(remove all letters after y in the alphabet)
Brian Webb
2005-10-08 18:52:17 UTC
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Post by Dan Oddluck
Is there a cheap way to make D2O at home ,
using normal water?
... If you can't afford that then you won't be able to
afford to enrich it yourself. ...
I think the reply above is the most useful one.

Isn't there an electrolysis method used to polish
crude D2O to high purity? I seem to remember
that a certain additive would raise the selectivity
of D2 over H2 to 20 or so. Ring any bells?

- Brian
c***@cmrr.umn.edu
2005-10-15 15:19:31 UTC
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Post by Dan Oddluck
Is there a cheap way to make D2O at home , using normal water? Time is no
problem, but I cannot buy D2O , it's pretty expensive; and I don't need 100%
D2O, just 70%-80% should be enough.
Herman Family
2005-10-16 01:36:41 UTC
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The easiest method would be to burn D2 in O2 in a 2:1 ratio. I suppose you
could distill regular water. Start with perhaps a few hundred thousand
gallons in order to get one gallon of D2O. A couple hundred trays ought to
get you started. Just how much do you need? I would think that even at
nearly zero value of your time and materials, simply buying it would be
somewhat cheaper.

Michael
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Post by Dan Oddluck
Is there a cheap way to make D2O at home , using normal water? Time is no
problem, but I cannot buy D2O , it's pretty expensive; and I don't need 100%
D2O, just 70%-80% should be enough.
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